Someone know why rAthena is offline since 14 day

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almost two weeks of downtime
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Looks like the rAID is destroyed. Lesson of the day: Have backups. All of the rAthena data is gone (because if I remember correctly, all their backups lived on the same box (maybe different VM)). 

Another lesson: Don't leave people who don't know how to run a server of any kind in charge of it.

 
So, I guess rAthena is gone for good and everything done in the last ~2Years in or with rAthena is lost now as well? ^^

Sounds just great.... Well, I guess everyone is coming to Hercules now xD

 
Jman said:
Looks like the rAID is destroyed. Lesson of the day: Have backups. All of the rAthena data is gone (because if I remember correctly, all their backups lived on the same box (maybe different VM)). 

Another lesson: Don't leave people who don't know how to run a server of any kind in charge of it.
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that word "ALL OF RATHENA DATA is GONE", stunned me.

anyways

hello Hercules? hehe

 
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It sucks if the data is really lost, sadly that forum grew to have a crapload of good information *sob

 
Jman said:
Looks like the rAID is destroyed. Lesson of the day: Have backups. All of the rAthena data is gone (because if I remember correctly, all their backups lived on the same box (maybe different VM)). 

Another lesson: Don't leave people who don't know how to run a server of any kind in charge of it.
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Create an automatized program to create backups and upload/move them to other server (using ftp for example). Create a local program in your personal computer that connects to the ftp server periodically and downloads the backups.

Learned the first time I got a very big problem in my first and last server... easy to do and you will have 2 backups automatically without a lot of work.

I hope that rathena got all the info back. Is a very good source to get information from.

 
Jman said:
Looks like the rAID is destroyed. Lesson of the day: Have backups. All of the rAthena data is gone (because if I remember correctly, all their backups lived on the same box (maybe different VM)). 

Another lesson: Don't leave people who don't know how to run a server of any kind in charge of it.
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But what about Maki said having another backup in his server or something? Do you think it was on the same HDDs? Because if I'm not mistaken he said even with the data on the HDDs gone they would still have a backup.All the files, support solutions, reports that got lost, oh dear "deer".

 
mkbu95 said:
Jman said:
Looks like the rAID is destroyed. Lesson of the day: Have backups. All of the rAthena data is gone (because if I remember correctly, all their backups lived on the same box (maybe different VM)). 

Another lesson: Don't leave people who don't know how to run a server of any kind in charge of it.
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But what about Maki said having another backup in his server or something? Do you think it was on the same HDDs? Because if I'm not mistaken he said even with the data on the HDDs gone they would still have a backup.All the files, support solutions, reports that got lost, oh dear "deer".
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The countless times I logged in and noticed that all the backups were being done on the local machine and NOT to an offserver backup storage despite me begging for something....I doubt there is another recent backup anywhere that is recoverable. And having the backups on a seperate VM on the same physical machine doesn't count (as is probably the situation here).

If they do have a recent backup and haven't cut their losses and applied it, then that's a pretty dumb move as well. Most people would not settle for downtime more than a few days, especially on a non-business site such as this. Most people in this situation would provision a new server, install the backups and announce that a week or two's work has been lost. Them not doing that just screams "no backups available for weeks". If there was financial data involved then the result might be different, but for no financial or client data, just a server with forums on it, having a week or two of lost data is no big deal. Of course, for shame, they moved the SVN off of Sourceforge and onto that server, despite mine as well as Ind's disagreement that something like this (a failed server) would kill the project.

 
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Jman said:
mkbu95 said:
Jman said:
Looks like the rAID is destroyed. Lesson of the day: Have backups. All of the rAthena data is gone (because if I remember correctly, all their backups lived on the same box (maybe different VM)). 

Another lesson: Don't leave people who don't know how to run a server of any kind in charge of it.
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But what about Maki said having another backup in his server or something? Do you think it was on the same HDDs? Because if I'm not mistaken he said even with the data on the HDDs gone they would still have a backup.All the files, support solutions, reports that got lost, oh dear "deer".
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 The countless times I logged in and noticed that all the backups were being done on the local machine and NOT to an offserver backup storage despite me begging for something....I doubt there is another recent backup anywhere that is recoverable. And having the backups on a seperate VM on the same physical machine doesn't count (as is probably the situation here).

If they do have a recent backup and haven't cut their losses and applied it, then that's a pretty dumb move as well. Most people would not settle for downtime more than a few days, especially on a non-business site such as this. Most people in this situation would provision a new server, install the backups and announce that a week or two's work has been lost.

Them not doing that just screams "no backups available for weeks". If there was financial data involved then the result might be different, but for no financial or client data, just a server with forums on it, having a week or two of lost data is no big deal. Of course, for shame, they moved the SVN off of Sourceforge and onto that server, despite mine as well as Ind's disagreement that something like this (a failed server) would kill the project.
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This.When this whole thing started I suggested why not move to a temporary host or something? Well, they said it wouldn't take that long and it wouldn't be worth it. Maybe they should consider this.

 
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I hope hercules have a good backup system. I know for sure people will start moving here because of what happened. It's really sad to know what's happening in rAthena, they really have a good source of info 

 
I think this whole story sums very well how rA management dealt with things in the last half+ year. I'm pretty sorry for the developers and the contributers
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I hope that much of their work is preserverd in Hercules's rA merges. There were some pretty good fixes/new stuff rencently which I would miss pretty much 
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i think rathena admin who was administrate rathena website/files/backups totally newbie. All things in our life is unstable. And rathena was really great community what reborn ragnarok server development. It's sad to see rathena more than 2 weeks offline.

Make backup every day, and reupload it to your pc, dropbox, google drive, mega, custom vpses, etc.

 
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Rebel said:
is RATHENA DEAD?????!!?
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I dont think so but I think that they are handling this in the wrong way. It shows how inmature they are.

You know, we are human and we make mistakes, I dont blame 100% about they had their back up in the same machine but they can make up something about it: Open a temporary forum, give more information in IRC or Facebook. We aren't living in 80 to not having a good communication between staff and community.

 
I'd like to congratulate whoever started the rumor, even I believed it for a while. xP

rAthena will be back up and running in a few days, and yes, we did indeed have backups.

 
Euphy said:
I'd like to congratulate whoever started the rumor, even I believed it for a while. xP

rAthena will be back up and running in a few days, and yes, we did indeed have backups.
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Uh just a little thought, I think it wouldn't take weeks to restore the forum if rathena have backups

 
Maybe all dev could be together again

~_~"

Because it will be the best

Hercules

-Great of develop  something new

-Slow/Bad of maintenance and keep old stuff update ( skill, script etc)

rAthena

-Slow/Bad develop of something new

-Great of maintenance and keep old stuff update ( skill, script etc)

That Facts

 
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