xeNium 0 Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) Which is better? Hercules or rAthena? is Hercules had all of Renewal features, like rAthena had? I mean this project already had all of the Ragnarok features, it just need to be improved, like more script that requested from users. I was a server developer but I leave Ragnarok for a years so I forgot players mostly like Renewal or Pra-Renewal or does not has renewal features at all on a Low Rate servers (I don't know how to mention the name) Edited September 14, 2013 by xeNium Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brynner 34 Posted September 14, 2013 Hercules is better than rAthena. some of the renewal features of it is from here. and we have a great developers here unlike on rAthena. 1 Elsa reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaBote 438 Posted September 14, 2013 It depends on what you want. Keep in mind that if you ask this here and in rAthena, you'll get here replies that say "Hercules is better" and in rAthena forums you'll be told that "rAthena is better". Correct reply is "Hercules is better in some ways, rAthena is better in some other ways". We don't get any commission or whatever based on users, (unlike rAthena we don't even place adverts on our pages), but it's an administrator preference. Here in Hercules we have the fastest and most optimized Ragnarok Online emulator to the moment and there's no possible argument to this: you can run the map server on 70 MB RAM, while rAthena consumes around 200 MB on an idle state. Anyways, this varies on the amount of maps and NPCs you load on your server, and in the amount of users you have. It's also a fact that Hercules consumes much less processing time than rAthena, but I'm not aware of how much. This also means Hercules boots faster than rAthena and has some caching system for even faster boot at the cost of some disk space. Note that these measures also vary depending on the OS you're using Hercules has some features that rAthena doesn't, and vice versa. For example we have an anti WPE security system (depends on client version) and some unique features (some of them were also merged in rAthena). The same happens on rAthena side, but I'm not well informed on that. Emulator stability is comparable, but since in Hercules we introduce and make more features it's quite obvious we are a bit riskier on that and may crash a bit more. Anyways, our bug fixing is way faster than rAthena. We're also comparable in emulator support, too, but I believe we've more answered topics in relation to our total amount that rAthena. The biggest flaw I can see out there is on the scripting and db development side, since rAthena is more active than us on that side (in fact, we seriously lack on them). Anyways, you can generally import all of them here with very little to no effort, most cases it's just a copy and paste issue and they'll work. We're also lifting some IMPORTANT scripting limitations at the moment and have no information of rAthena doing that at the moment. We've also support for the last 3rd job skills while rAthena doesn't (with good formulas but still not perfect), but neither of us have Rebellion yet. And we've also have a plugin system that allow you to make new features without the need of creating conflicts in the source code when updating. Anyways I still don't know why third party devs like eAmod still don't want to support us because it's pretty damn easy to do that with the plugin system which was specifically designed for them. I prefer to think they're lazy bums and only want to sell, because in eAmod case they tell you they support Hercules but then when you buy it they tell you it's still in merging process (it's been like 3 months merging, seriously?). Anyways, it's not that I personally like that much people getting rich at the cost of our free emulator. In short, if you want my opinion: Performance: Hercules Stability: If you mind it over all other things, use rAthena because it's slightly more stable but not much. Else it doesn't quite matter. Support: Hercules for bug fixing, doesn't matter for forum support. Development of new features: Hercules Development of scripts: rAthena (but you can just copy them over here most of the cases). Third party support: Still rAthena. 12 Legend, Uzieal, caterpillar and 9 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jezu 25 Posted September 14, 2013 In my opinion.. Hercules = Better Renewal Formulas and Calculation. Does not have some Renewal Stuff and contents. rAthena = Better in Renewal Stuff and Contents. Lack of Renewal Formulas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beret 50 Posted September 14, 2013 I use hercules and don't regret since it consumes less memory, so the initial reading of the emulator is faster. There are also systems in hercules which are of own official server. In rathena only good content I see are the npcs and database. In hercules many new features are coming, I'm hoping to get some time ind to give you some information of the aegis systems, so hercules getting practically right next aegis mechanics missing only part of skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asura 11 Posted September 14, 2013 Hi xeNium,Hercules has a nifty plugin feature, read up about it. But I really wish one of them would work on support for multiple cores; though performance-wise, Hercules has done awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystery 594 Posted September 15, 2013 What jaBote wrote, I must say is the most informative post I've seen in a while about a comparison between rAthena and Hercules. 1 MrDracula reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daikumi 0 Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) Well, if you're on this forum, you say, "Hercules is the best"!!! But when your on rAthena, you've to change that into, "rAthena, you're my bestfiend in the whole wide world." Edited September 15, 2013 by Daikumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uzieal 89 Posted September 15, 2013 What jaBote wrote, I must say is the most informative post I've seen in a while about a comparison between rAthena and Hercules. That is no joke, great comparison jaBote ! In my opinion... Hercules is The Future of Ragnarok Online Emulation plain and simple. Both emulation projects have their merits and share a certain amount of common sense commits but I see Hercules becoming the go to option in the very near future, we lack some things yes, but the entire concept of Hercules is to push the boundaries of what has always been accepted by other communities as "possible". Hercules will be virtually limitless and radically more flexible than its predecessors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poison 10 Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) This topic should be deleted or archived in reference to this: http://herc.ws/board/topic/799-rathena-devsstaffmembers-on-hercules/ Edited September 15, 2013 by Poison 1 KeiKun reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uzieal 89 Posted September 15, 2013 This topic should be deleted or archived in reference to this: http://herc.ws/board/topic/799-rathena-devsstaffmembers-on-hercules/ I dont believe you interpreted the context of Jman's post fully This topic wasn't " rAthena is better than Hercules because x, y,z. " nor was this topic " Hercules is better than rAthena because x, y, z." What I have seen thus far have been fair assessments of the differences between the two projects in regards to the pros and cons of both & not as a direct post on the issue but in response to a question in need of a proper answer by a fellow community member. Ex; "rAthena is good because x,y,z." & "Hercules is good because of z,y,x." "Hercules however lacks x,y,z." & "rAthena however lacks z,y,x." However I do see potential drama, closing the topic is not necessary however marking it answered and locking it would do just fine, if any action is needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystery 594 Posted September 15, 2013 This *could cause potential drama between rAthena and Hercules members, thus I should close it just incase it *may get out of hand. jaBote's post has clearly stated what the topic owner wanted. This topic is not meant to be a hatred topic towards rAthena nor a blinded love for Hercules. This topic is just merely stating the Pros and Cons between both Hercules and rAthena. Based on such Pros and Cons, members of both communities should make their decision whether they'll use Hercules or rAthena as a preference for their server. 3 caterpillar, jaBote and Uzieal reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites