Jguy

soooo.... after disappearing from the RO scene for about 2 years now, i might be coming back.  considering how long its been since i've done any scripting or database stuff, and how long its been since i've logged into kro or even kept up with the news, i doubt i'll be able to contribute much of anything yet.  theres a number of reasons why i left the rathena community and then quit GMing, financial issues being the biggest reason along with lack of free time and some drama with a few mod/devs.  i was never planning to come back to ro ever again, but with this new emulator and community, along with multiple requests from friends to finally make my own server, i might invite ro back into my life again (and hopefully not let it take over again).
 
i see lots of familiar names already, along with some new ones, so i just wanted to say hi to everyone!  i was told you guys are short handed with script/db devs, maybe after i get myself back up-to-date with everything i might help out a bit :>

Hercules: 1st 2014 MEGAPATCH
Helloooo! Starting 2014 with a boom, yet another outstanding patch from Hercules! Patch Item #1: Scripting Level UP
Char and account variables overhaul They're no longer limited to #define ACCOUNT/GLOBAL_REG_NUM, they're now limitless Their storage capabilities have received a colossal improvement, each numeric variable now uses at least 1/10 the memory it did previously, and we achieved it while increasing speed, simply outstanding as expected from us. Thanks to their quantity no longer being limited, char and account variables now support arrays, i.e. setarray #accreg[y],...; Saving and loading procedures have been improved outstandingly! for instance, previously, if you had 100 char regs but only one had been modified or deleted, map server would need to send all of them and char server would have to re-insert all of them; now only modified or deleted ones are saving, increasing saving speed of both map and char server procedures and decreasing inter-server bandwidth by dinosaur steps. Magnificent Array Improvement (to all variable types) Size limit modified from 127 to ...2 billion! Speed of countless array operations have been improved thanks to new array handling, e.g. whereas previously upon deleting any array it'd set its 127 possible values to 0 (regardless of how many values it actually had) now it only deletes as many members as it possesses getarraysize (the-oh-misleading-function since it returns the arrays' highest index) has been sped up as well thanks to this, and it no longer wastes script stack room on every interaction And the futureThis improvement has open way for many other amazing features, for example, Haruna has designed a foreach implementation for scripting among some other useful enhancements Global account variable handling redesign To clarify, this is that ancient type used on multiple-char-server setups, ##varname, which are present in all servers an accounts logs into, as opposed to #varname which, while account-wide, are considered 'local' to a char server. Saving and loading have been modified to match char/local-acc variable new design, on its own it already is a major speed boost and bandwidth saver, however, it has also improved login servers overall processing speed, thanks to its processing no longer being attached to ordinary account handling, this means that all operations that required login server to use an accounts data (i.e. login/pincode change/ban/block/etca) have been sped up, and use less memory. '.', '.@' and ''' variables write operation speed up trying to write ''' variables outside instances will now print warnings instead of silently doing nothing runtime read/write operations of global/temporary(@) char variables, as well as account variables, have been considerably sped up, whereas previously it'd run a str lookup to find a match for read/write it now uses the variable id, furthermore it now relies on DBMaps to handle the lookup (whereas previously it was a normal loop). Database tables overhaulWe've analysed global reg data storage and we've decided that it not only is a memory waste, it is a processing one as well due to how int and str variables share the same storage, we've analysed global reg data for a number of large servers and have identified most variables are numbers, by a outstanding majority, with that in mind, this patch introduces 6 tables that will improve this drastically. You'll notice this patch's SQL upgrade file will take care of this, and thus migrate the data properly into the new tables. Special Thanks To:
Haruna ! <3 wouldn't have gotten half of it done if it weren't for Haru, thank you so much sensei! jaBote, for proposing it! Emistry Yommy Streusel Patch Item #2: @autotrade Persistency
Also known as: @at merchants survive server crashes/restart, as soon as the server starts again they're re-spawned. May be disabled on src/config/core.h by commenting out AUTOTRADE_PERSISTENCY Special Thanks To:
Haruna! Michieru, this feature wouldn't be out now if it weren't for him, lets all thank him! Dekamaster/Nightroad for helping me on this features original design, 3-4 years ago. Thank you master <3! Link'u!
Commit Upgrade files #1 (Autotrade) #2 (Scripting Level UP)

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FYI - jmanfffreak and Jman can be considered the same person. AKA Me.
 
Otherwise, good work.

Hercules Plugin Manager: Update
Hello~! What?
This is the first major update to our Hercules Plugin Manager, HPM, since it has been first introduced some 3 months ago Made Possible Thanks to Haruna, Gepard and Xgear In this Update
Initial Char and Login Server support Custom Packet support (and thus ability to override existent packets) in all 3 servers Initial Custom Data Struct supportThe ability for a plugin to create and append data structs to existent data, currently available to player units (map_session_data) and network pipes (socket_data), we'll be extending this to others as we go by, drop us a word if you need it somewhere it isn't available yet Documentation Update
The documentation is currently being updated and will be available over http://herc.ws/wiki/HPM once it is complete The sample (src/plugins/sample.c) has been updated to demonstrate the usage of the new features Up-and-Coming
HPM HooksSince HPM was first released we've greatly advanced in the design of this feature, which will take full advantage of our Hercules Renewal Phase One and be extremely efficient Hercules Stress Test ServerOur Stress Test Server will become a reality as soon as the HPM Hooks is released, as it is the one condition necessary for it to function as we intend it to Link!~u
Commit

in that case i'd recommend you go visit your eye doctor, because that has not been said here.We saw many of our users struggling with their fluxcp installations and, since the fluxcp repos have failed to help them, we decided to step in and fork to help these users ourselves. and that is all there is to it. I myself like ceres better, but our users were struggling with flux and not ceres, so we're forking flux to help these users.

Napster:
 
Since the use of Hercules requires MySQL to be installed, we don't update the files in the 3rdparty folder (actually, there were talks of getting rid of that directory, probably back on rAthena). Since when MySQL-server is installed, it includes the mysql.h file in the correct place, the files in the 3rd party folder are not required.
 
I'll bring this up in a meeting soon and see what the fate of this folder might be. We realize they're out of date but there's been no reason to update them as no one uses them.
 
If for some reason you don't have mysql-server on the same machine that you plan on running Hercules on, then you can install the libraries seperately, and is actually recommended as they are put in the right place and other scripts/programs can access them. For most Linux distributions this is package libmysqlclient-dev.

Napster:
 
Since the use of Hercules requires MySQL to be installed, we don't update the files in the 3rdparty folder (actually, there were talks of getting rid of that directory, probably back on rAthena). Since when MySQL-server is installed, it includes the mysql.h file in the correct place, the files in the 3rd party folder are not required.
 
I'll bring this up in a meeting soon and see what the fate of this folder might be. We realize they're out of date but there's been no reason to update them as no one uses them.
 
If for some reason you don't have mysql-server on the same machine that you plan on running Hercules on, then you can install the libraries seperately, and is actually recommended as they are put in the right place and other scripts/programs can access them. For most Linux distributions this is package libmysqlclient-dev.

For future reference, renaming a binary on linux:
 
 
mv old_filename new_filename  
Example:
 
 
mv login-server_sql login-server_sql2  
If you plan on changing the name of the login, char and map server binaries, you have to make sure the start script finds the correct ones. Open that file in your favourite text editor and do a quick find and replace.

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Hercules Renewal Updates
 
Ladies and Gentlemen Hercules Development Team Proudly present you Official Ragnarok Renewal Mechanics/Systems that is now available in Hercules....
 
 
What Renewal updates do we have?
 
RE PHYSICAL ATK SYSTEM
-RE EDP support.
-Mob ATK support
-RE DEF reduction support
NOTE:It is functional however there are still some missing piece that needs to be discovered
 
RE MAGICAL ATK SYSTEM
-Mob MATK support
-RE MDEF support
NOTE:It is functional however there are still some missing piece that needs to be discovered
 
RE CASTING SYSTEM
-Fully functional casting formula derived/based from kRO
-Skill bonuses support
 
RE ASPD SYSTEM
-Full support for skill bonuses
-Support for item bonuses
 
RE STATUS SYSTEM
-Accurate batk, hit, flee, def, mdef & etc formula for MOBS and PC
 
RE SKILLS
-Such as CR_ACIDDEMONSTRATION, ASC_BREAKER and etc.
-3rd jobs skills
NOTE:This is huge but I can say we already have almost half of it
 
2013 kRO Updates
we already have some of the new skills implemented
GC_DARKCROW RA_UNLIMIT GN_ILLUSIONDOPING RK_DRAGONBREATH_WATER RK_LUXANIMA NC_MAGMA_ERUPTION WM_FRIGG_SONG SO_ELEMENTAL_SHIELD SR_FLASHCOMBO SC_ESCAPE AB_OFFERTORIUM WL_TELEKINESIS_INTENSE LG_KINGS_GRACE ALL_FULL_THROTTLE And a lot lot lot more to be added...
 
 
And now we challenge you to compare our current system to official servers and we guarantee a good satisfaction but PLLEEASE if you find bugs, discrepancy and other anomaly just drop by our  Bug Tracker and we will immediately take appropriate action to serve you most..
 
commit
 
SPECIAL THANKS!
To Awesome Yommy for the AWESOME support, resources, methods and techniques. To Rytech for the KG/OB skill info To Kyeme, Mecheiru, Angezerous & others for RE info and tips And lastly to you as a member of Hercules

yeah i just read post #1, and i reacted like this
 
Git doesn't use Revision Number (SHA)
about tracking features added or whatever you call those episodes of ragnarok online
i remember there is a talk like that before in the making of hercules(i guess 3 months before hercules started).
Its about splitting those stuff in a repository. No idea what happen to that plan and for me it really sucks splitting it..
back to the topic, documentation of the implemented and will be implemented stuffs in hercules.
not totally a bad idea,  you can just add a README file inside /npc/
 
or or ( sorry about how i write this stupid post, i haven't sleep yet )
bring back Changelog inside Hercules root
ofc, Changelog doesn't mean commits you've done ( thats stupid git timeline does that )
it contantains stuffs you implemented like
 
[Month-Year][Core] Introducing Channel System[Core] Added Plugin System[Core] Packet Overhaul[Feat] Added Episode 11: Star Wars[Feat] Rewrite the Whole Episode 19: Twilight  
and yes its monthly, why? ist better ofc
no one will look everyday in Changelog
Since Repository News still exist you know :>

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The emulator is never going to attempt to create/drop/alter a table. I'd leave those off.

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Sorcerer! Because I'm awesome at it.

Hercules casts "Memory Slasher !!" - May 30 Patch
Memory Slasher !!
Regardless all the fancy features in it, this patch's greatest achievement is smart, clever employment of memory, by looking at our memory usage wisely we've been able to reduce map-server's memory (RAM) usage by more than 2/3, about 183MB of RAM were dropped, while maintaining Hercules outstanding record on performance improvement. Beyond the memory usage drop there is also a significant processing speed improvement which can be noticed during boot, map cache loading which used to account for most of the map-servers boot time no longer exists, its gone, dead, fini, boom! it was replaced by a smart map cache handler that loads its data only when a map is necessary (the data is then kept until shut down), this logic also makes map-server's shut down process a hell lot faster.
 
Instance Rework
As suggested by the community, this wasnt supposed to be bundled with this commit but the memory usage improvements required me to modify how instances were stored, so I re-wrote part of it to fit the suggestion as well.
Instance Functionality/Feature Server may now create instances of any maps regardless of client-side edits, e.g. one can clone prontera and call it "mymapname" (as is best described in the *instance_attachmap script command note) Instances may now be available in 4 distinct ways (as is best described in *instance_create script command note), by nobody (server type instance, to be used with special map names), by a sole character, by a party, or by a guild Script Command Changes *instance_create 2nd param is now called owner_id instead of party_id, and it got a 3rd optional param that defines what kind of owner id it is (when not provided, assumes party_id, for backwards compatibility), available options are (IOT_ stands for INSTANCE OWNER TYPE) IOT_NONE (0), IOT_CHAR (1), IOT_PARTY (2) and IOT_GUILD (3). *instance_destroy no longer autodetects instance id from party id *instance_attachmap now supports a 4th, optional, param, "<new map name>", it will allow you to specify a entirely new map name for the instance (without the need of client-side edits). This option can be best employed when used on a instance of <owner_type> IOT_NONE *instance_detachmap no longer autodetects instance id from party id *instance_id no longer supports any param *instance_set_timeout no longer autodetects instance id from party id *instance_announce no longer autodetects instance id from party id, and to tell it to autodetect from the attached script you must set instance_id param as -1 as opposed to 0 *instance_npcname no longer autodetects instance id from party id *has_instance no longer autodetects instance from party, however it now checks if attached player possesses a instance with same map as has_instance(<param>) checks for *instance_warpall no longer autodetects instance from party Other ChangesInstance IDs (valid ones) are now always >= 0 as opposed to > 0 (update your scripts!) Battlegrounds Queue
As suggested by the community, most of its features were added in this patch, we were unable to finish it though because we lacked some information, we've put our questions in this topic, once our questions are answered we should be able to finish it in a matter of minutes (all the heavy lifting was done in this patch).
Arenas They're easily configurable in the new conf/battlegrounds.conf file, it possible to add more arenas by editing the client's lua files/entryqueue/entryqueuelist.lua file Configuration Sample arenas: ({    name: "Tierra Gorge" //must match the name in client files    event: "Tierra_BG2::OnPlayerListReady"    minLevel: 80    maxLevel: 150    reward: {/* amount of badges awarded on each case */        win: 3        loss: 1        draw: 1    }    minPlayers: 6 /* minimum amount of players to start */    maxPlayers: 60 /* maximum amount of players */    minTeamPlayers: 6 /* minimum amount of team members required for a team (party or guild) to join */    delay_var: "Tierra_BG_Tick" /* npc variable name that will store the delay for this match */    maxDuration: 30 /* maximum duration in minutes, if reached game ends and highest score wins (or calls a draw if scores are equal) */},{    name: "KVM (Level 59 and below)" //must match the name in client files    event: "KvM03_BG::OnPlayerListReady"    minLevel: 1    maxLevel: 59    reward: {/* amount of badges awarded on each case */        win: 1        loss: 0        draw: 0    }    minPlayers: 4 /* minimum amount of players to start */    maxPlayers: 60 /* maximum amount of players */    minTeamPlayers: 5 /* minimum amount of team members required for a team (party or guild) to join */    delay_var: "KVM_BG_Tick" /* npc variable name that will store the delay for this match */    maxDuration: 30 /* maximum duration in minutes, if reached game ends and highest score wins (or calls a draw if scores are equal) */}) QueueWe wanted to make the queue as easy to play with as possible, so we've created a whole new set of script commands designed with this purpose. These commands make it easy to create and control queues for anything, games, events, quests, and of course in this case, the battleground's queue. Queue - Script Commands *queue()creates a new queue instance, returns created queue id set .@id,queue(); *queuesize(<queue_id>)returns the amount of entries in queue instance of <queue_id>. set .@length,queuesize(.@queue_id); *queueadd(<queue_id>,<var_id>)adds <var_id> to queue of <queue_id>, returns 1 if <var_id> is already present in the queue, 0 otherwise. queueadd(.@queue_id,.@var_id); *queueremove(<queue_id>,<var_id>)removes <var_id> from queue of <queue_id>, returns 1 if <var_id> is not present in the queue, 0 otherwise. queueremove(.@queue_id,.@var_id); *queueopt(<queue_id>,<optionType>,{Optional <option val>})modifies <queue_id>'s <optionType>, when <option val> is not present, <optionType> is removed from <queue_id>, when present it modifies <queue_id>'s <optionType> with the new <option val> value.
Currently 3 options are available, HQO_OnDeath (0), HQO_OnLogout (1), HQO_OnMapChange (2) (the constant names are not final). queueopt(.@queue_id,0,"MyNPC::MyOnQueueMemberDeathEventName");It allows you to hook npc events to be triggered by specific actions that may happen to a player in the queue (when the queue in question is used for account ids) *queuedel(<queue_id>)deletes <queue_id> returns 1 when <queue_id> is not found, 0 otherwise. queuedel(.@queue_id); *queueiterator(<queue_id>)creates a new queue iterator instance, a queue iterator is not a reference to a queue's actual members, it copies the queues members when initialized, this way you can loop through them even if you remove them from the queue set .@it,queueiterator(.@queue_id); *qicheck(<queue_iterator_id>)checks whether there is a next member in the iterator's queue, 1 when it does, 0 otherwise. qicheck(.@queue_iterator_id); *qiget(<queue_iterator_id>)obtains the next member in the iterator's queue, returns the next member's id or 0 when it doesnt exist. for( set .@elem,qiget(.@queue_iterator_id); qicheck(.@queue_iterator_id); set .@elem,qiget(.@queue_iterator_id) ) *qiclear(<queue_iterator_id>)deletes a queue iterator from memory, returns 1 when it fails, 0 otherwise. qiclear(.@queue_iterator_id) Sample Usage: /* say create a queue */set .@id,queue();queueadd(.@id,getcharid(3));/* ... add as many entries ... (no limit) */if( queuesize(.@id) == 999 ) {    /* whatever */}/* anywhere in the code */set .@it,queueiterator(.@id);for( set .@elem,qiget(.@it); qicheck(.@it); set .@elem,qiget(.@it) ) {    //do anything e.g.    /* attachrid .@elem; */    /* mes "ID:"+.@elem; */}qiclear(.@it); Special Thanks To
Yommy for providing me with a hell lot of data for the BG Queue, wouldn't have been able to get it to this point without his help. Rosiel for his suggestion on the instance feature Xgear for his help with the network timeout bug mkbu95 for pinpointing the script parser bug All of Hercules Staff for their ideas/suggestions/criticism and support, and for keeping me sane during this memory slashing madness The Future~! This patch sure has taken me away from my usual bug-squashing mode, I'll be going back to my over-10-bug-fix-a-day schedule. We have quite a hell lot planned so this might not last long, make sure to keep an eye on your bug reports for I sure will be replying to them. Link~u! Commit 1 Commit 2 Commit 3

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FYI - Aegis is NOT an emulator. It is the OFFICIAL software. AFAIK there hasn't been a public leak of Aegis fully available to the public in a few years. You also need Windows and a Microsoft SQL server to run it. While rAthena/Herc run on 256MB of RAM or less being idle, Aegis usually consumes 2-3x that being idle.

FYI - Aegis is NOT an emulator. It is the OFFICIAL software. AFAIK there hasn't been a public leak of Aegis fully available to the public in a few years. You also need Windows and a Microsoft SQL server to run it. While rAthena/Herc run on 256MB of RAM or less being idle, Aegis usually consumes 2-3x that being idle.

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Hello,
 
While we do not mind that rAthena developers, staff members and regular members register an account, post or send PM's on our forums, we do not take kindly to 'rAthena is better because x y and z' posts, or anything promoting rAthena as a superior emulator because of such and such. There is no such post on rAthena made by a Hercules staff member about Hercules and we intend to keep it that way, we would appreciate the same respect.
 
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Thank you.

Hello,
 
While we do not mind that rAthena developers, staff members and regular members register an account, post or send PM's on our forums, we do not take kindly to 'rAthena is better because x y and z' posts, or anything promoting rAthena as a superior emulator because of such and such. There is no such post on rAthena made by a Hercules staff member about Hercules and we intend to keep it that way, we would appreciate the same respect.
 
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